Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/08/1993 03:00 PM House HES

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  HB 2:  DRUG TESTING FOR SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY brought HB 2 to the table and introduced Rep.                   
  Gail Phillips.                                                               
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-11A, SIDE B                                                          
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. GAIL PHILLIPS testified as SPONSOR OF HB 2.  She said                   
  she introduced the bill to help insure the safe                              
  transportation of students to and from school, and that an                   
  identical bill died at the end of last year's legislative                    
  session.  The bill would require school districts or Rural                   
  Education Attendance Areas providing student transportation                  
  to establish a drug and alcohol testing program, including                   
  random testing at least once a year.  She said current state                 
  law provides for similar testing requirements in the case of                 
  an accident or when reasonable cause exists.  Though a                       
  Legislative Affairs Legal Services memo raised the                           
  possibility of challenges to the bill on probable cause                      
  grounds, some courts have allowed random tests when public                   
  interest is sufficiently great, Rep. Phillips said.  She                     
  said childrens' safety is of utmost public interest, and                     
  state law already provides for testing of truck drivers,                     
  pilots and train engineers.  Other states have passed                        
  similar laws.  She referred to a 1991 North Slope Borough                    
  drug testing policy and to a Legislative Research Agency                     
  report for more information.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 068                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. IRENE NICHOLIA asked how HB 2 would affect rural areas,                 
  and how rural districts would effect drug and alcohol tests.                 
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS invited Department of Education officials to                   
  answer those questions.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 082                                                                   
                                                                               
  GARY BADER, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THE                      
  DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION (DOE), said rural areas would take                   
  urine samples and mail them to testing labs.  The state                      
  would have to put out the testing services to bid to find a                  
  lab.                                                                         
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA said her district includes many remote                         
  villages where mail service can take a week.                                 
                                                                               
  MR. BADER said the DOE would find a way to get the tests                     
  done properly.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 100                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked how the districts would test for alcohol,                   
  which is also required under the bill.                                       
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY said urinalysis samples used in drug tests                      
  normally are good for 72 hours.  She also asked if all bus                   
  drivers in small villages are (unintelligible), and received                 
  an affirmative answer.                                                       
                                                                               
  REP. HARLEY OLBERG said some mail order urinalysis tests                     
  have additives that extend their viability for testing                       
  purposes to several days.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 130                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. VEZEY asked the impetus for the law.  He said Title 48,                 
  part 40, of the Code of Federal Regulations requires him, as                 
  an employer, to provide a drug-free workplace.  He asked why                 
  all employers are not subject to such laws.                                  
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS said commercial bus drivers and other                          
  commercial drivers now must pass drug and alcohol testing,                   
  though school bus drivers do not in Alaska, even under new                   
  commercial driver's license requirements taking effect in                    
  April.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 156                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked why the testing did not require all school                  
  employees, including crossing guards.                                        
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS said she would consider that a rhetorical                      
  question.                                                                    
                                                                               
  REP. OLBERG suggested it was because school bus drivers are                  
  not represented by the National Education Association (NEA).                 
                                                                               
  REP. PETE asked why the bill did not cover school crossing                   
  guards.                                                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY said she believed the bill includes those who                   
  are in command of moving vehicles, including airplane                        
  pilots, train engineers, tractor drivers, and school bus                     
  drivers.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 172                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS said school crossing guards are often                          
  volunteers.                                                                  
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT raised the issue of randomness.  He said                           
  administering truly random tests, instead of a test at least                 
  once a year, would save money while still creating the fear                  
  of imminent unannounced testing that would encourage                         
  abstinence from drugs.                                                       
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS said bus drivers should receive a test at the                  
  time of hiring.                                                              
                                                                               
  MR. BADER stated the random testing schedule laid out in the                 
  bill would serve as a deterrent nearly as good as true                       
  randomness.                                                                  
                                                                               
  REP. OLBERG noted that the fiscal note said each district                    
  would have to have its bus drivers tested at least once a                    
  year.                                                                        
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA asked if HB 2 would affect boat or airplane                    
  drivers.                                                                     
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS answered no.  She also referred to the North                   
  Slope Borough's testing law as an example of how rural                       
  districts have implemented such a program.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 225                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA asked about the likelihood of "probable cause"                 
  legal challenges.                                                            
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS said she did not care about the privacy of a                   
  bus driver who is drunk or using drugs when weighed against                  
  the safety of children.  She said the fact that courts have                  
  upheld such laws in Alaska, and that other states have                       
  similar laws, far outweighs the possibility of violating a                   
  driver's privacy.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 235                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA asked why no fiscal note reflected the cost of                 
  defending legal challenges.                                                  
                                                                               
  REP. PHILLIPS said she saw no need to budget for legal                       
  challenges she did not expect to receive.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 244                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. VEZEY expressed concern that HB 2 implies that the 62                   
  school districts were not now in compliance with federal law                 
  to maintain drug-free workplaces.                                            
                                                                               
  MR. BADER said he felt the intent of the bill was to serve                   
  as a deterrent in addition to the laws already on the books.                 
                                                                               
  Number 270                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. KOTT repeated his concerns about the randomness of                      
  testing as outlined in HB 2.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 285                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. B. DAVIS said the committee could attach a letter of                    
  intent regarding the randomness of the tests so that state                   
  regulations could address such questions.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 294                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. BADER stated that the random nature of the tests needs                   
  only to be sufficient to be meaningful.                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY closed public hearing on HB 2 and asked the                     
  will of the committee.                                                       
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE moved passage with individual recommendations.                    
  Hearing no objections, CHAIR TOOHEY announced HB 2 PASSED                    
  WITH INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.  She then called a five                     
  minute at-ease at 4:10 p.m.                                                  

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